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New/Old High Speed OP Machine
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https://youtu.be/2IrTWLiOl5o

Older Orbitec Defender with large orbit.
As you can see it is smooth and quite for a large orbit machine.
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Is this being sold by the maker as a new model available or is it some ones experiment ?
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what is the size of the orbit Jeff?
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(05-31-2015, 05:42 AM)Mardie VanBree Wrote: Is this being sold by the maker as a new model available or is it some ones experiment ?

Depends on the interest of the machine.
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(05-31-2015, 11:42 AM)timhall Wrote: what is the size of the orbit Jeff?

It's a 3/4" orbit
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Interested? LOL. I think you already know the answer to that one Jeff.
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I built my business on two of these. I've had them for six years and they're pretty much bullet proof. Grab some Glads and some Vacaway juice and you're making $$$. I've had mine refurbed by Clark at Orbitec and they both look new again. You can by them new from Clark directly.
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I guess I always get the short end of the stick. My defender had a 1/2 orbit, was quiet "sometimes" and loud and rattling other times. Also due to the extreme lack of head weight it didn't clean for squat, and I had many many issues with it and often had trouble getting any support. I once logged 30 straight days of calling Orbitec and never once got an answer and never once was any message returned. That machine was the end of my dealings with that company. Whenever Clark did "by chance" answer the phone he was always great to deal with but those times were few and far between for me.
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Same experience here as Grant. I have never been able to get a return call. Haven't dealt with them in years. I had heard that service had improved and recently tried contacting them for a part. Nothing has changed. No return calls or return emails. Mystifies me as to how they stay in business.
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Jeff, is this a single speed or multi speed machine?
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(06-01-2015, 06:58 AM)Blue Ridge Floor Care Wrote: Jeff, is this a single speed or multi speed machine?

Single speed but it could be done where the speed changes so you can slow it down to dig in more to remove more soil with changing the orbit, maybe.
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(06-01-2015, 07:44 AM)Browns Carpet Care Wrote:
(06-01-2015, 06:58 AM)Blue Ridge Floor Care Wrote: Jeff, is this a single speed or multi speed machine?

Single speed but it could be done where the speed changes so you can slow it down to dig in more to remove more soil with changing the orbit, maybe.

I'm sure someone has checked into whether or not this would infringe on the current patent or doctrine of equivalents. Demand for a competitive machine would most likely be strong.
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(06-01-2015, 07:44 AM)Browns Carpet Care Wrote:
(06-01-2015, 06:58 AM)Blue Ridge Floor Care Wrote: Jeff, is this a single speed or multi speed machine?

Single speed but it could be done where the speed changes so you can slow it down to dig in more to remove more soil with changing the orbit, maybe.

Slowing it down would only defeat the benefits of a high speed OP machine. High speed OP machines need the proper amount of head weight or it will just hydro plane. Dustin did this with his Orbot and ended up buying a Grumpy.
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(06-01-2015, 07:51 AM)Blue Ridge Floor Care Wrote:
(06-01-2015, 07:44 AM)Browns Carpet Care Wrote:
(06-01-2015, 06:58 AM)Blue Ridge Floor Care Wrote: Jeff, is this a single speed or multi speed machine?

Single speed but it could be done where the speed changes so you can slow it down to dig in more to remove more soil with changing the orbit, maybe.

I'm sure someone has checked into whether or not this would infringe on the current patent or doctrine of equivalents. Demand for a competitive machine would most likely be strong.

This should be very interesting.
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(05-31-2015, 02:37 PM)Browns Carpet Care Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 05:42 AM)Mardie VanBree Wrote: Is this being sold by the maker as a new model available or is it some ones experiment ?

Depends on the interest of the machine.

Are you the builder or just a board spokesman for this machine?
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(06-01-2015, 08:01 AM)Mardie VanBree Wrote: Slowing it down would only defeat the benefits of a high speed OP machine.

but it would improve the benefit of cleaner carpet, ie: dig down a little more.
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The tools I use or have on the van ... in order from most used, to least used:  Dyson ; 19" Cimex ; Multi-Sprayer ; Orbot ; Oreck-Orbiter ; Hoover-Conquest ; Cyclo Polisher ; DryPod ; 20" Whittaker Trio.
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(06-01-2015, 08:14 AM)Mardie VanBree Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 02:37 PM)Browns Carpet Care Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 05:42 AM)Mardie VanBree Wrote: Is this being sold by the maker as a new model available or is it some ones experiment ?

Depends on the interest of the machine.

Are you the builder or just a board spokesman for this machine?

well his name is Jeff Brown, not Clark Lancaster. it's the same situation with Mardie VanBree and John Guerkink.

Tongue Wink
Currently retired from HWE; VLM only. Commercial Only...well except for the occasional resi job every few weeks.

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The tools I use or have on the van ... in order from most used, to least used:  Dyson ; 19" Cimex ; Multi-Sprayer ; Orbot ; Oreck-Orbiter ; Hoover-Conquest ; Cyclo Polisher ; DryPod ; 20" Whittaker Trio.
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Disagree with you Derek. I own an existing machines in production and only share my experience and knowledge of it.
It would appear to me that Jeff Brown is introducing a machine that is not in production. IE: spokesman for a new product launch.
So as you can see your analogy between Jeff and I is wrong.
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you both own machines by a manu and speak about them, i just pointed out the obvious analogy. sorry if i offended you Mardie, i don't want to be banned.
Currently retired from HWE; VLM only. Commercial Only...well except for the occasional resi job every few weeks.

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The tools I use or have on the van ... in order from most used, to least used:  Dyson ; 19" Cimex ; Multi-Sprayer ; Orbot ; Oreck-Orbiter ; Hoover-Conquest ; Cyclo Polisher ; DryPod ; 20" Whittaker Trio.
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That is what we call 3/8 offset. So 3/4 is just counting the 3/8 movement on either side of the shaft. We came out with that 15 years ago.

Ours by their calculations is a 1 1/8 orbit.

Anything more than one speed or over 3/8's offset is patented.

Just more bs trying to make the Orbitec "seem" like a high speed equivalent.
John "PadMan" Geurkink
Trinity Renewal Systems
The Grandfather of OP
Encap Carpet Cleaning Machines
I was OP when OP wasn't cool
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