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Encapping bad for Daycares and Houses with dogs and Children
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I saw a thread on Truckmount Forums about Encapping being unhealthy in homes with small kids and Dogs. Here is my opinion I dont think it is but for the sake of argument lets say it was wouldnt it be more unhealthy having dirty carpets.
Andy Kramer
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#2
Why would it be unhealthy?
That presupposes you are not removing the contaminates.
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#3
I believe the idea here is that HWE cleaning is more of a rinsing process and is better at removing biological contaminants than encap cleaning which relies on crystallization and subsequent vacuuming.

You're allowed to think however you prefer, though.
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#4
I can see arguments on both sides. I doubt I would use an encapping product in a daycare - maybe perox - but other non encapping juices would perform just fine in a daycare IMO

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#5
Rub-a-dub-dub ... good grief.
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#6
We would probably HWE it to to be sure to flush out all the cooties.

Would encap still clean it, yes I agree it's much better than dirty carpet. If I were to do it low moisture I'd use Peroxcellent.
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#7
If I were to use low moisture in this situation I would definitely choose pad cleaning with Peroxylent over encap. At least, that way, I would take some soil with me and sleep a little better.
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I think some relate encap to padcap...I made that mistake in the beginning.

Every process leaves something in the carpet to replace the dirt.
Even the fresh water rinse guys are leaving something.

Any process can leave "Un-Healthy" products in the carpet when done.


I think that is the argument against Encap...NOT taking any dirt out...until it dries..Then vac.

Worried about leaving too much juice in the carpet.

But when HWE takes 1/2 a day or longer to dry...There's still stuff being left in the carpet.

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LOL ... yeah boy ... all that unhealthy water ....
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Quote:But when HWE takes 1/2 a day or longer to dry...There's still stuff being left in the carpet.
Yes I agree every system leaves some residual behind but hopefully in the HWE process most of the contaminents are flushed out.
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Ya never thrown it in four wheel
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(07-26-2011, 02:08 PM)Pigchip Wrote: LOL ... yeah boy ... all that unhealthy water ....

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Lose your Modship Pigmaster?

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I wouldn't be concerned with the kids. They're just gonna puke and piss all over the rugs again anyway. Dogs however are a different story Tongue

I'd probably use John's Abstraction VLM in that situation. I use that when the custy wants green. It's green and cleans well. You could pad or HWE with that.

Pick your poison Dodgy
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Brian, have you ever performed or observed quality HWE cleaning?

If not, you've got something ahead of you to consider.

There's no way I could ever get most carpets we clean to an acceptable degree of cleanliness if we did not HWE.

Yeah, they might look okay, but carpet can hide a lot. I know because I use that dynamic daily.
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I used a TM on plenty of rat nasty jobs. Almost an entire year of using it.

Then I went back to a porty...


now.... VLM only.

Save the TM argument for the uneducated.

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Pardon me for giving my 2 cents.
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#16
Off Topic a little what do you guys think of the Steamon Demon?
I haven't seen it in action but I hear different concerns about it.
Can someone elobrate on it?
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(07-26-2011, 06:14 PM)Steve Lawrence Wrote: Brian, have you ever performed or observed quality HWE cleaning?

If not, you've got something ahead of you to consider.

There's no way I could ever get most carpets we clean to an acceptable degree of cleanliness if we did not HWE.

Yeah, they might look okay, but carpet can hide a lot. I know because I use that dynamic daily.



Hey Steve,
I was a Chem-Dry guy for years...Parents. Went to a porty after that and then owned a Steam Genie then a White Magic HO for years.

It's a good process...I did really well with it.

The OP method is less expensive, a little harder work, Less issues with maintenance, less expensive again and still does a great job in my opinion.

I'm edgumacated and what not. LOL

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Nick

I hear the Demon is a flushing machine, that can't be compared to. If you have soiled carpet it can really do a job on it. The guys I know that have them love them when they use them.

I also hear it hates foam, and you must have defoam on hand or it will be a long day for you. The floor also must be level or you'll lose suction and create wet spots that cause you trouble the following day.

We almost bought one for a building we maintain but in the end didn't need it. We will probably get one eventually.
You never rolled in the hay
Ya never thrown it in four wheel
Climb on up in here, girl
Let me show ya how country feels


"How Country Feels" Randy Houser


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thanks Richard. I would really like to see one in action. I might go down to Excellent Supply some day and ask for a demonstration.
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#20
why does any one poster assume another poster has targeted him?

My remarks are at the argument....not the arguer.

The entire debate is fickle and without foundation.
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